But the thing that struck me is the day that Trump went to the White House to meet with Obama, it was an interesting day because everyone was expecting a short meeting, it turned out to be a long meeting, and then they had a presser — not quite a presser, but they had a little conversation in the Oval, I guess afterwards, which was more interesting I think than most of the ...The image was striking. That one was called “Think Like a Freak,” which was a little bit more strategic, a little bit more teachy. So it’s not like you can’t predict anything ever. One of the biggest differences I think between what we do and what Malcolm does is in our books — at least, in the Freakonomics books, versus Malcolm. Now he’s turning his curiosity to something new: interviewing some of the most interesting, unorthodox people around — from actresses to athletes, authors to inventors. * * * Listen and subscribe to our podcast at Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, or elsewhere. But then about 12, 13 years ago I got really into economics, which was a weird thing to get into. Look, I’m the last person in the world to predict the future. It’s […]This is a transcript of the Freakonomics Radio podcast “How to Think About Guns.” [MUSIC: The Wintermarket; “Thank You There Will Be No Encore” (from The Ballad of Artie Fufkin)] Stephen J. DUBNER: Steve Levitt is my Freakonomics friend and co-author. Yeah.

[laughs] And I always think that that kind of response, that kind of what we think of as xenophobic or just fearful or racist or bigoted or whatever it is, anti-blank, is usually more of a symptom than a cause of behavior. And I thought, had that happened and had that happened among every group of people or individuals who find themselves cowering behind a wall or putting up a wall to keep somebody out, I think you immediately melt about 50 percent of the aggression and garbage. […]This is a transcript of the Freakonomics Radio podcast “100 Ways to Fight Obesity.” [MUSIC: Jonathan Clay; “Carousel” (from Everything She Wants)]   DUBNER: Steve Levitt is my Freakonomics friend and coauthor. We have no idea. [MUSIC: Ruby Velle & The Soulphonics, “Coming Home To You” (from It’s About Time)] Stephen J. DUBNER: Are you saying, right here and right now, that you vow from today going forward, that for one week … That you’re going to do […]Freakonomics ® is a registered service mark of Freakonomics, LLC. Michael I actually edited once or twice when I was an editor at the Times Magazine. So we’re very good friends, I’m happy to say, good collaborators. Fame, there’s money, there’s power, and there’s fame. Also with Freakonomics radio we did a few episodes in the last few years about the power of the presidency itself, which I found to be pretty ...Yeah, then we did another one that we updated.

We have transcribed the episode “Evolution, Accelerated” (June 15, 2017). This is a transcript of the Freakonomics Radio podcast “Running to Do Evil.” [MUSIC: Color Radio, “Towers” (from Architects)]   Stephen J. DUBNER: If you are a man, or a boy, and you have a brother, especially an older brother, then you know that the bond between brothers is unlike any other. And although he was a psychologist by training, his work wended its way into economics, with the help of a few midwives. News, author interviews, critics' picks and more. But my books, for whatever reason, have been more popular.

I don’t always watch TV. Youngest of eight, Jewish, Catholic, rock band, yeah. “The stranger didn’t shatter Adam’s world all at once. Yeah, but then we use that to poke into whatever things that we feel is interesting and for which there’s data. Yeah, if Donald Trump really believes this about immigrants, he really can do this. And it’s the reason I never went into like daily beat journalism, I didn’t like it. We’re the opposite. But she had this one thing she said, it wasn’t like she said it all the time, I think she said it once but I always remembered it.

It’s that moment every couple of weeks where we talk to Stephen Dubner. I think very few people do a cost-benefit analysis on fame.The short answer is no, I don’t have any wisdom [laughter] like that but I’ll tell you the one Thanksgiving ... l love this time of year because I grew up in a family where the holidays were a big big deal and then they became bittersweet because my dad died when I was a kid right before Christmas. I did a followup episode — so that episode I originally put out probably five or six years ago, it’s something I’ve thought about a lot and have updated through the years. TED Talk Subtitles and Transcript: "Freakonomics" author Steven Levitt presents new data on the finances of drug dealing. This was several years back. And then our podcast, Freakonomics radio podcast, became the second way to keep the conversation going.Well, it coincided with the fact that they were going to the paywall and we had not a lot of desire …Sounds about right. That’s what people don’t get.I don’t think they want to be famous, I think they want to be admired and adored and petted and loved.I think so, because it’s very easy to conflate the good things about being recognized, like the money and the power. And then it was actually really fun to have a blog when you publish a book that then blows up.

That camp didn’t love Malcolm’s interpretations, not surprisingly.That was part of it. So we ended up doing a second book, “Super Freakonomics,” which was pretty good, and I think it took us five years. Stephen J. DUBNER:  It’s great to talk to you, Sarah.

They’ll be more famous very soon. It is “the hidden side of everything.”  Dubner, long […]This is a transcript of the Freakonomics Radio podcast “The Tax Man Nudgeth.”   Sarah GARDNER: It’s Freakonomics time.



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